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Benz
120 hp / 150 hp Grand Prix racing car
12-litre de Groulart OHV racer for the 1908 Grand Prix; three of the four original cars were converted to 15.1-litre 150 hp for Semmering and the American Grand Prix
Still being researched: why it matters, identification guide, full specifications. Everything shown is checked against the cited sources. Know more? Send us a source.
Contents
01Overview
At a glance
- Built
- 4 Built
- Years
- 1908
- Engine
- 15,100 cc / 15.1 LFactory: 15.1 L
- Power
- Not yet verified
- Top speed
- Not yet verified
- Body
- Not yet verified
- Designer
- Not yet verified
- In this archive
- Not yet verified
- Surviving
- Not yet verified
Sources and any conflicting figures are in the sections below.
Why it matters
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How rare is it?
Six separate kinds of rarity – never combined into one number.
Each kind of rarity is rated separately and never combined.
02Production & history
Production
Every figure says what it counts.
| What is counted | Figure | Basis | Status |
|---|---|---|---|
| Total model productionoriginal 120 hp cars (three later converted to 150 hp) | 41 | Factory production | Independently researched |
Independent counts (e.g. engine and colour) are never combined into a calculated figure. Surviving examples are never presented as original production.
History
The 150 hp Grand Prix car of 1908 became the starting point for Benz's 200 hp record car of 1909. Its four-cylinder engine was enlarged by widening the bore while the 200 mm stroke stayed the same. Private owners also ran the 150 hp cars: Barney Oldfield traded his in to the Benz importer Froehlich when he bought the first record car, and L. G. Hornsted had considerable success with one at Brooklands.
Variants
How each version differs from the standard 120 hp / 150 hp Grand Prix racing car.
No variants documented yet. Have a source? Contribute it.
03Specifications
Technical specifications
Engine
| Engine family | Not yet verified |
|---|---|
| Engine code | Not yet verified |
| Layout | Not yet verified |
| Cylinders | 42 Independently researched |
| Displacement | 15,100 cc / 15.1 LFactory: 15.1 L2 Independently researchedArchive wording is "probably"; it refers to the 150 hp car, not necessarily the earlier 120 hp version. |
| Bore | Not yet verified |
| Stroke | 200 mmFactory: 200 mm2 Independently researchedStroke of the 150 hp engine as carried over to the 200 hp record engine. |
| Compression ratio | Not yet verified |
| Fuel system | Not yet verified |
| Power | Not yet verified |
| Power at | Not yet verified |
| Torque | Not yet verified |
Transmission & drivetrain
| Gearbox | Not yet verified |
|---|---|
| Gears | Not yet verified |
| Driven wheels | Not yet verified |
Chassis, body & dimensions
| Chassis | Not yet verified |
|---|---|
| Front suspension | Not yet verified |
| Rear suspension | Not yet verified |
| Brakes | Not yet verified |
| Steering | Not yet verified |
| Body construction | Not yet verified |
| Wheelbase | Not yet verified |
| Length | Not yet verified |
| Width | Not yet verified |
| Height | Not yet verified |
| Front track | Not yet verified |
| Rear track | Not yet verified |
| Kerb weight | Not yet verified |
| Dry weight | Not yet verified |
Performance
| Maximum speed | Not yet verified |
|---|---|
| 0–100 km/h | Not yet verified |
| Fuel tank | Not yet verified |
“Not yet verified” means no source has been checked for that value yet. Nothing is estimated to fill a gap.
04Colours & options
Factory colours & interiors
Original paint and trim, with the number of cars in each where a source gives it.
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Factory options & codes
Codes are shown exactly as written by the manufacturer.
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05Individual cars
Chassis register
Every documented car, with its colours, history and where it is now. Open a row for the full record. Known chassis are not automatically authenticated originals.
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Competition history
Every race result of the individual cars, in date order. Click a chassis number to open its full record in the register.
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Auction & sale history
Documented public sales of the individual cars. Click a chassis number to open its full record in the register.
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See one in person
Museums where an example of this car can be seen.
No example is documented on public display yet. Have a source? Contribute it.
06Reference
Identification guide
How to tell an original from a replica or later conversion.
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Sources
Each number links to the exact facts it supports.
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1
Benz 150 hp racing car, 1908 – Mercedes-Benz Classic M@RS archive Level A
- 4 original 120 hp cars (three later converted to 150 hp)
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2
Benz 200 hp "Lightning Benz" record car, 1909 – 1913 Level A Mercedes-Benz Group AG, Mercedes-Benz Public Archive (Classic M@RS)
- four-cylinder engine of the 150 hp racing car
- probably had the 15.1-litre four-cylinder engine of the 150 hp racing car
- retaining the stroke dimension of 200 mm
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